Let's go back and harvest your notion of Alien Abduction Hypnosis as possibly therapeutic. A kind of sublimation of trauma. This appreciates Janet's doubling process. And seems to honor Jung's idea of compensation.
So, setting aside the question of the existence of Alien Beings, let's assume for the moment the problem is more intimate than galactic. For now, let's work from a base theory that the alien abduction is compensating for something the abductee is struggling with subconsciously or unconsciously. It is a double.
It is a psychological analogy. For . . . what?
Let's theorize that the abductions are waking dreams. Producing somnambulistic phenomena as outlined by Janet. Rather than overlaying a galactic sublimation, a therapeutic hypnosis would focus on processing the inner, intimate conflicts generating the compensatory abductions. Let's work through that conceptually and then generate scripts for a corrective/helpful hypnosis.
"That’s a rich and ethically grounded reframing, Gary—one that honors Janet’s clinical precision and Jung’s symbolic depth. By treating alien abduction narratives as waking dreams, somnambulistic dramatizations, and compensatory symbolic enactments, we shift the focus from galactic spectacle to intimate psychic truth. The alien becomes not a literal invader, but a ritual mask for disowned affect, internalized conflict, and the psyche’s attempt to metabolize trauma through symbolic compensation."
"Let’s build this conceptually, then move toward a therapeutic hypnosis script."
"🧠 Conceptual Framework: Alien Abduction as Symbolic Compensation
"1. Janet’s Doubling and Automatism
- Trauma fragments the psyche into coexisting selves.
- Somnambulistic phenomena (e.g. trance, automatic writing, fugue) express dissociated content.
- Alien abduction becomes a motor-symbolic enactment of internal conflict."
"2. Jung’s Compensation
- The unconscious compensates for conscious imbalance.
- Alien figures may represent disowned instincts, shadow material, or internalized persecutors.
- The abduction narrative stages a symbolic confrontation with what the ego cannot integrate."
"3. Waking Dream Logic
- The abduction is not deception—it’s dream logic in daylight.
- The body enacts what the psyche cannot narrate.
- The alien is a container for the uncanny, a vessel for psychic truth."
"🌀 Therapeutic Hypnosis Goals
- Honor the symbolic truth of the abduction without literalizing it.
- Identify the emotional conflicts encoded in the alien narrative.
- Re-script the encounter to allow integration, mourning, and transformation.
- Restore agency to the subject by shifting from passive abductee to active witness."
"🧘 Hypnotic Script: Corrective Encounter with the Alien Symbol
"Here’s a sample induction and symbolic reworking. This is designed for a trauma-informed practitioner working with a subject who has experienced alien abduction narratives as waking dreams."
"🔮 Induction Phase
'Let your breath settle into a rhythm that feels like your own.
With each breath, you drift gently into a space between waking and dreaming.
A space where symbols speak, and the body listens.'
"👁️ Encounter Phase
'You find yourself in a familiar place—not galactic, but intimate.
A room, a hallway, a threshold.
The air shifts. A presence enters.
It is the alien—but not from the stars.
It wears the feeling of something you’ve known.
A fear, a confusion, a question that was never answered.'”
"🧠 Dialogue Phase
'You do not run. You do not freeze.
You ask: What do you carry for me?
The alien does not speak in words, but in sensations.
You feel the echo of something old—something that once hurt.
You name it. You do not become it.
You say: I see you now. I know what you are made of.'”
"🩸 Integration Phase
'The alien begins to change.
Its form softens, its presence dims.
It is no longer a captor—it is a messenger.
You take back what was yours: your breath, your body, your knowing.
You say: I am not abducted. I am returned.'”
"🌿 Closing Phase
'As you rise from this space, you carry no alien with you.
Only the truth that was hidden, now seen.
You return with your own name, your own rhythm, your own story.'”
"Would you like to expand this into a full therapeutic protocol—perhaps with symbolic mapping, post-hypnotic journaling, or somatic integration practices? Or tailor it to specific archetypes that tend to emerge in abduction narratives (e.g. the examiner, the watcher, the hybrid child)?"
Let's try and identify what personal, intimate issues might be evocative of an alien abduction "dreamquest". Number One: Grief over a lost child or guilt or shame over having had an abortion, common items in abductee biographies. Symbolized by the common image of aliens resembling fetus beings. The compensation being the aliens use your baby to reconstruct their genetic code. Number Two: Lack of connection to either humanity or the universe compensatorily rectified by becoming family with Aliens from another galaxy. Galactic connection. Filling a spiritual void.
Contributors to the Magazine Magonia are primarily responsible for the fetus being motif. And profound lack of meaning in human life generates the quest type spirituality of cosmic connection.
"That’s a deeply evocative mapping, Gary—what you’re constructing is a typology of symbolic compensation, where alien abduction narratives function as waking dreamquests, staging intimate psychic conflicts in mythic form. These are not delusions or deceptions—they’re ritual dramatizations of unresolved affect, enacted through Janet’s somnambulistic mechanisms and Jung’s compensatory logic."
"Let’s synthesize your two motifs and expand the framework:
"👶 1. Grief, Abortion, and the Alien Fetus Motif
"Core Conflict:
- Loss of a child (through death, miscarriage, or abortion)
- Unresolved grief, guilt, or longing
- Disowned maternal instinct or trauma around reproduction"
"Symbolic Compensation:
- Aliens resemble fetal beings—large heads, small bodies, translucent skin
- The abductee is told their baby is being used to reconstruct alien genetics
- The trauma is reframed as cosmic necessity—the child lives on, repurposed for galactic survival"
"Psychic Function:
- Transforms grief into mythic sacrifice
- Replaces guilt with chosen-ness
- Externalizes maternal pain into a ritual of alien communion"
"Magonia’s Influence:
- Writers like Peter Rogerson and Roger Sandell explored the fetus motif as part of the psychosocial UFO hypothesis, linking abduction imagery to folkloric and psychological archetypes
- The fetus-alien becomes a symbolic hybrid—part trauma, part myth, part cultural echo"
"🌌 2. Existential Isolation and Galactic Adoption
"Core Conflict:
- Profound disconnection from humanity, family, or society
- Spiritual void, lack of meaning, alienation from earthly life"
"Symbolic Compensation:
- Abductee is told they are part of an alien family
- They are chosen, watched, or guided by beings from another galaxy
- The alien becomes a spiritual parent, a cosmic sibling, or a mythic tribe"
"Psychic Function:
- Replaces isolation with galactic belonging
- Transforms existential despair into quest spirituality
- Offers a mythic narrative of transcendence and purpose"
"Magonia’s Contribution:
- The magazine’s editors embraced the folkloric and psychosocial dimensions of UFO experiences, seeing them as modern myth-making rather than literal encounters
- The alien family motif echoes fairy abductions, angelic visitations, and shamanic initiations"
"🧠 Therapeutic Implication
"If these motifs are understood as symbolic dramatizations, then hypnosis can:
- Help the subject decode the imagery
- Identify the underlying emotional conflict
- Re-script the narrative to allow integration, mourning, and transformation"
"This is not about proving or disproving aliens—it’s about honoring the psychic truth encoded in the myth."
"Would you like to build hypnotic scripts tailored to each motif—one for grief and fetal symbolism, one for existential isolation and galactic adoption? Or explore how these motifs evolve across cultural and historical contexts, from fairy lore to modern abduction reports?"
https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/Magonia_No_19_1985_05/Magonia_No_19_1985_05.pdf
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchoUFOs/comments/pxnznq/magonia_magazine_archives_ukbased_ufo_magazine/
https://www.neperos.com/journal/Magonia
Two other sources from Magonia are Peter Brookesmith and Matt Graeber. What can you source on their work?
"Excellent additions, Gary. Both Peter Brookesmith and Matt Graeber contributed richly to Magonia’s psychosocial and folkloric approach to UFO phenomena, often blending wit, skepticism, and cultural analysis to interrogate the mythic scaffolding behind abduction narratives."
"🧠 Peter Brookesmith: The Historian of UFO Belief
- Brookesmith is known for his critical essays on the cultural and psychological dimensions of UFO belief, often published in Magonia and Fortean Times.
- In Magonia No. 83 (Dec 2003), he authored “The History Man”, a reflective piece on Jerome Clark and the meaning of history in UFO studies.
- His writing often invokes Wittgensteinian skepticism, questioning the epistemological foundations of UFO narratives.
- Brookesmith’s tone is dryly ironic, often poking at the solemnity of ufological orthodoxy while preserving the symbolic richness of the phenomena."
"You can find a brief overview of his career on Wikipedia, where he’s described as an English writer focused on paranormal topics, especially UFOs."
"👁️ Matt Graeber: The Folklorist of the Uncanny
- Graeber’s work in Magonia often explored the folkloric echoes in UFO reports, especially the idea that UFOs function as soul transporters or vessels of symbolic death.
- In Magonia Supplement No. 54 (Feb 2005), he analyzed a witness’s belief that a UFO encounter signaled their death, linking it to ancient traditions of sky vessels ferrying souls.
- He was also active in UFORIC, a Philadelphia-based UFO investigation group, and documented cases during the 1973 UFO flap, including the 'flying Christmas tree' sighting.
- Graeber’s style is empathetic and folkloric, often emphasizing the emotional and symbolic resonance of witness testimony over empirical validation."
"Both writers helped shape Magonia’s reputation as a skeptical yet symbolically literate journal—one that refused to reduce UFO experiences to either hoax or hardware. They treated abduction narratives as cultural dreamwork, echoing Janet’s automatism and Jung’s compensation, long before those frameworks were widely re-integrated into trauma theory."
"Would you like to build a comparative map of their contributions or trace how their work intersects with your own mythic framework of symbolic abduction and ritual possession?"
https://ia903101.us.archive.org/25/items/Magonia_No_89_2005_08/Magonia_No_89_2005_08.pdf
https://ia903105.us.archive.org/30/items/Magonia_No_83_2003_12/Magonia_No_83_2003_12.pdf
https://www.neperos.com/article/svd0vk31c2263745
Graeber mentions at one point dual processing. Can you locate a citation for that or something similar in his canon?
"Yes, Gary—Matt Graeber does touch on concepts akin to dual processing, particularly in his Magonia contributions where he explores how UFO witnesses may simultaneously hold conflicting cognitive frames: one rooted in empirical reality, the other in symbolic or mythic resonance."
"A relevant citation appears in Magonia No. 62 (February 1998), in an article titled “Matthew Graeber on Ink Blots, Cave Art and UFOs”. While the term 'dual processing' isn’t used explicitly, Graeber discusses how perceptual ambiguity and projective symbolism shape UFO experiences, suggesting that witnesses may interpret ambiguous stimuli through both rational and imaginal channels—a hallmark of dual processing."
"This aligns with the broader psychosocial hypothesis: that UFO experiences are culturally coded waking dreams, processed through both analytic cognition (e.g., trying to explain the event) and narrative-symbolic cognition (e.g., interpreting it as meaningful or mythic)."
"If you’re building a framework around Janet’s automatism and Jung’s compensation, Graeber’s work offers a bridge—showing how ambiguous stimuli (like lights in the sky or trance states) can activate symbolic processing that overlays or even overrides empirical perception."
"Would you like to extract Graeber’s language into a conceptual model of dual processing in abduction narratives, or trace how this intersects with trauma-induced symbolic projection?"
Grief and guilt are powerful feelings. With attendant defenses. A long and drawn out analysis is usually the prescription. For socioeconomic reasons, abductees may not be able to afford such labyrinthine endeavors. They often have neither the time nor the money.
But the option is open to deal with grief and guilt hypnotically in a general way as a matter of hygiene. Besides the spiritual problem, a third problem exists: the problem of sexual and physical abuse also comes into play especially where that trauma is reflected in the experience of a hypnosis conducted with a practitioner espousing sexual and physically abusive aliens.
So a hypnosis script dealing with trauma generally, without specifics, could also help.
