Last time I asked A.I.: Did Shay or Litz ever interact with the concept of Vietnam Syndrome?
"Yes—Jonathan Shay’s work is deeply entangled with the psychic terrain that Vietnam Syndrome evokes, though he doesn’t always name it directly. Brett Litz, by contrast, engages more with the clinical and moral dimensions of trauma than with the political or cultural implications that Vietnam Syndrome represents."
"πΊπΈ Vietnam Syndrome: A Quick Primer
"Vietnam Syndrome refers to the collective American unease, guilt, and disillusionment following the Vietnam War. It encompasses:
- Public skepticism toward military intervention
- National shame over perceived failure and betrayal
- The psychic residue of a war fought under morally ambiguous conditions"
"It’s not a clinical term—it’s a cultural and political one. But it resonates with the themes of betrayal, disorientation, and moral collapse that Shay and Litz both explore."
"π§ Jonathan Shay’s Engagement
"Shay’s work is a kind of moral autopsy of Vietnam Syndrome. In Achilles in Vietnam and Odysseus in America, he doesn’t use the phrase often, but he diagnoses its psychic core:
- He draws direct parallels between Achilles’ rage and betrayal and the experiences of Vietnam veterans who felt abandoned by military leadership and society.
- He critiques the lack of ritualized grieving and reintegration for Vietnam vets, contrasting it with Homeric funeral rites.
- His emphasis on leadership betrayal and the undoing of character is a direct response to the moral chaos that Vietnam Syndrome symbolizes."
"In short, Shay doesn’t just interact with Vietnam Syndrome—he mythologizes it, giving it archetypal depth and ethical weight."
"𧬠Brett Litz’s Position
"Litz’s work is more focused on individual moral injury, especially in post-9/11 contexts. He doesn’t explicitly engage Vietnam Syndrome as a cultural phenomenon, but his framework:
- Validates the internal moral anguish that Vietnam veterans experienced
- Offers tools for clinical assessment and healing, which indirectly address the psychic fallout of Vietnam Syndrome"
"So while Litz doesn’t name it, his work helps treat its symptoms."
"Would you like to explore how Vietnam Syndrome functions as a kind of national moral injury—perhaps even a mythic wound in the American psyche? I think there’s rich terrain there for your narrative and psychohistorical mapping."
https://traumatheory.com/depoliticizing-moral-injury/
You say Litz is a scholar. What was his specialization?
"Brett Litz is a clinical psychologist whose specialization centers on posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), military trauma, and moral injury. His work bridges clinical practice, empirical research, and therapeutic innovation, particularly within military and veteran populations."
"π§ Key Areas of Specialization
- PTSD and Combat Trauma: Litz has conducted extensive research on the psychological impact of war, especially among veterans of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam.
- Moral Injury: He helped formalize and expand the concept beyond Shay’s betrayal model, developing tools like the Moral Injury Outcomes Scale (MIOS) to assess its prevalence and impact.
- Traumatic Loss and Grief: His work includes psychometric validation of grief disorders and interventions for bereavement in military contexts.
- Early Intervention and Treatment: Litz co-developed Adaptive Disclosure, a therapeutic approach tailored to warzone trauma, loss, and moral injury.
- Measurement-Based Care: He’s contributed to the development of standardized tools for assessing trauma-related symptoms, including the widely used PTSD Checklist (PCL)."
"π️ Institutional Roles
- Professor of Psychiatry and Psychology at Boston University
- Research Psychologist at the VA Boston Healthcare System
- Director of Mental Health Core at the Massachusetts Veterans Epidemiological Research and Information Center (MAVERIC)"
"Litz’s scholarship is rigorous, but it’s also deeply attuned to the ethical and existential dimensions of trauma. His work doesn’t just treat symptoms—it interrogates the psychic cost of war, loss, and moral compromise. If you’d like, we could explore how Adaptive Disclosure functions as a kind of ritual repair—an attempt to re-symbolize the unspeakable."
https://www.bu.edu/psych/profile/brett-litz/
https://deploymentpsych.ce21.com/speaker/brett-litz-2336779
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ncGeeP4AAAAJ&hl=en
Could war criminals excuse their atrocities by recourse to a claim they were morally injured?